Growing numbers of Iraq war veterans had been joining
the movement that supports redeployment of U.S. troops
from Iraq.
Other Iraq war veterans believe the United States
needs to stay the course and support the good work being
done there by the troops.
Several veterans were among the 200 people arrested
during an anti-war demonstration (including the staging
of a "die-in") held Sept. 15 at the U.S. Capitol that
drew 10,000.
The Reporter asked four Iraq war veterans from
Wisconsin, including two from the Fond du Lac area, to
voice their thoughts about the war.
Some of the four are against U.S. involvement in the
war and others are supportive of what the United States
is doing in Iraq.
Don Hounsell Fond du Lac
A sergeant first class in the Army Reserve, Don
Hounsell, 39, said the in-fighting taking place on
political fronts in the United States is crippling to
the country's global image.
"It seems like our Congress is trying to alienate the
president. Their recent vote made Turkey (a crucial U.S.
ally just north of Iraq) very mad. They did it
intentionally, and it hurt our reputation. That's how I
look at it," he said.
Hounsel refers to a House panel passing a resolution
condemning the mass killing of Armenians at Turkish
hands early in the 20th Century. According to the
Christian Science Monitor, the heightened tensions, and
the wave of anti-U.S. outrage it sparked, come as Turks
debate how to handle a second issue: a recent increase
in terrorist attacks carried out by Kurdish militants
operating from inside Iraqi territory.
Now Turkey says it may take matters into its own
hands and send its own troops into Iraq.
"There's too much political strife, and both sides
(Democrats and Republicans) are guilty of it," Hounsell
said. "It definitely puts our soldiers in harm's way."
The war, he believes, is going in the right direction
and needs to continue.
"There are thousands of Iraqis fleeing their country,
but there are people there from this side of the world
trying to help them out. Our troops need a little more
time to help stabilize the nation," Hounsell said.
"Television is trying to spin it, even locally, but you
just can't do this stuff overnight. I live here on Rees
Street, and my street is still tore up and it's been
that way since May. Things take time."
On Sept. 14, 2004, Hounsell left his job in waste
treatment management to supervise transport as a
sergeant first class in the Army Reserve (of which he is
still a member). He served in Iraq for 15 months.
"It had its moments, some better than others," he
said. "We hauled supplies back and forth a lot during
night missions. I was in a convoy that did take fire,
but I wasn't in the fire fight."
Although not everyone in his unit wanted to be there,
especially those who left behind young families or
higher-paying jobs, Hounsell said every one of them
pulled together.
"We were scared," he said. "We were going into an
unknown to do a job in harm's way, but we did our
mission and we took our jobs seriously."
So far, the surge in Iraq has worked, Hounsel said,
but he voices concern about the British pulling out of
the southern part of Iraq.
"Who will be put in there? They say the Iraqi forces,
but that's our main line down there. We have to keep on
training the Iraqis and hope the Iraqis understand what
is at stake," he said.
Jason Moon Milwaukee
Iraq veteran and peace activist Jason Moon of
Milwaukee said his service in Iraq from July 2003 until
Aug. 2004 left him bitterly opposed to the war.
Moon supports a slow withdrawal of troops, the
creation of an international peacekeeping team — not led
by the United States — and the replacement of
English-speaking troops with others who speak the
language (like members of another Islamic nation).
"Nothing we do can change the way they (Iraqis) feel
about us," Moon said. "If you want to liberate a
country, you have to hold the people there higher than
you hold yourself."
Now 33, Moon was 17 years old in 1993 when he signed
up in Tomahawk with the Wisconsin Army National Guard,
the 724th Engineer Battalion. During his eight years of
service, he helped out during the Oakfield tornado and
responded with his unit to a severely flooded area of
Baraboo.
"It was great, and it jibed with my ideals," he said.
Then Sept. 11, 2001 happened. He re-enlisted because
of what he calls a "solidification of patriotism."
"I wanted to protect our country and thought that we
would be patrolling borders and airports, national
monuments and bridges. Our country needed people, and I
was willing," he said.
Instead, Moon said that he was sent to Iraq and told
to follow orders that were against his beliefs.
"I saw a culture being disrespected," he said. "It
shattered my illusions of the human spirit."
Moon said the soldiers deployed in the summer of 2003
were ordered to run over children if they ran into the
road, take the lives of civilians in terms he disagreed
with and were ordered to not give food or water to
civilians along the roadside.
"I told my superiors I wouldn't kill anyone," Moon
said. "I entertained the troops with singing and playing
my guitar. I taught Korean soldiers English and did
whatever I could to remain useful on base. They
understood I wasn't going to shoot anyone, so they gave
me jobs. I tried to become a conscientious objector
while I was over there, but they told me if I did that I
would still be in Iraq after my unit came home."
After his return home, he received an honorable
discharge from the National Guard.
Moon currently attends graduate school at Cardinal
Stritch College in Milwaukee. He has a degree in
religious studies with a minor in philosophy and plays
his music at a variety of venues.
Steve Schlosser Fond du Lac
At age 18, Steve Schlosser joined the 961st U.S. Army
Reserve Engineers in Pewaukee. He retired in August 2006
after 20 years of service.
"I don't think the progress in Iraq is what the
(government) had hoped for, and the Iraqi citizens are
not contributing to it. They are fighting amongst each
other instead of against the insurgents," Schlosser
said. "We need the Iraqi people to pick up the pace, and
they aren't."
Calling it a frontless war (because the war is
everywhere), Schlosser maintains the United States is
trying its best and doing a great job. The next push, he
said, needs to come from within.
"It starts with re-educating the children (who are
taught to hate) at a very young age," he said.
Schlosser's unit was deployed to Iraq with the 244th
Engineers based out of Denver, Colo. He spent 14 months
(2003-04) serving in Operation Iraqi Freedom as a
sergeant first class. He recalls the desolation of the
desert region and the green palatial areas surrounding
the castles owned by Saddam Hussein.
"Saddam did nothing to repair the country," he said.
"The country was sitting there with no water or power,
except in Saddam's palaces, which were actually small
cities."
Stability in the region ripples throughout the entire
Middle East, he said, and Americans can't live without
the oil that comes from that part of the world, at least
not until alternative energy sources are developed.
"The United States has the greatest Army in the
world; there's no doubt," Schlosser said. "I get a
tingle up my back when I think of all these kids from
small towns across the country. Everyone should feel
proud of these soldiers. They are doing what they have
to do."
Schlosser is employed at Briggs & Stratton in
Milwaukee.
Robin Eckstein Oshkosh
Robin Eckstein, 30, of Oshkosh, served as a truck
driver in the Wisconsin National Guard and the U.S.
Army.
She believes the United States should be engaging the
international community in active participation when it
comes to what is happening in Iraq.
"Terrorism is a world issue," she said. "We need to
look at responsible redeployment. We need to help our
veterans and support veterans' issues."
Creating strained international relations, she said,
does not "support our troops."
"It has the opposite effect. It endangers their lives
even more when their own government turns countries
against us," she said.
Eckstein joined the military in 1999 with thoughts of
getting a free college education.
"Then I came back from basic training, and I realized
how much I loved the military," she said. "I signed up
for active duty with the 123rd MSB First-Armored
Division and was stationed on a military base in Germany
when 9/11 happened."
She recalls the German people crying and heaping
mounds of flowers at the entrance to the base.
"They came and brought food for the guards and they
cried for America," she said.
In July 2003, Eckstein was stationed at Baghdad
International Airport, where she and fellow soldiers ran
supply missions.
"We were the logistic relief point, and every day, we
would deliver supplies to small bases all around the
area," she said.
Her three-month tour in Iraq reflects Eckstein's love
of the military and her country and her pride in being a
military veteran. She works with veterans groups to
lobby for resources.
"The current administration," she said, "is creating
1,000 veterans a day but not allocating the money needed
to support them all."
She calls war the saddest experience of her life.
"It's something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy,"
she said.
Eckstein is studying global leadership at the
University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh.